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Alice Brennan: Hi there, I'm Alice Brennan, you're listening to Background Briefing. This week, we take you to the mid north coast of New South Wales. It's actually the sound of three people fighting over a sign in the small town of Bungwahl. Greg Thomas: Suddenly the church needs money and sells a valuable community asset. Alice Brennan: The community there is divided and many are devastated that the Anglican Diocese of Newcastle is selling their church. Kevin Carter: It was meant to go forever and ever and the church would sit there and the community would benefit. I would have thought some of the pioneers would be turning in their grave. Alice Brennan: Following the Royal Commission into child sexual abuse, many churches around Australia are struggling with how to find the millions of dollars they owe in redress. David Lewis, you've been looking into this, what have you found? David Lewis: I've been looking at the Anglican Diocese of Newcastle. It was very much under the spotlight at the Royal Commission. That's because it received the fifth highest number of complaints of historic child sexual abuse of any Anglican Diocese in the country. And where does that money come from? David Lewis: Well, that's a problem because insurers are refusing to provide cover to the Diocese, its cash reserves have run out, and now it's been forced to ask its 63 parishes to cough up 25% of the money they've raised by selling property, including churches. Alice Brennan: Just like the church in the small town of Bungwahl. And a language warning on this one, things do get a bit heated. David Lewis: I'm heading south from Forster and I'm passing through this tiny community called Bungwahl. I've just parked at the bottom of a big, grassy hill, on top of which is a small church. There's this sign that's been nailed to a tree just below the church. It says 'Save St James Church, Bungwahl'. It's got a picture of the church with a big SOLD sign stuck on top. At first I count two, maybe three of these signs, but that's just the beginning. Someone's clearly very angry about the sale and they've gone to a lot of trouble to show it. As you drive up the hill toward the church there are more of these signs: 'St James Church, Bungwahl, give it back', reads one of them. The signs have been put up on a neighbouring property, but they're right on the boundary, facing the church, so anyone who visits St James will see them. There's another sign that's been nailed to a telegraph pole here. It says, 'Anglican Diocese, don't sell our church to pay for your sins'. Sorry I'll just get your name, straight into the microphone. Rodney Bramble: Rod Bramble. David Lewis: How old are you, Rod? Rodney Bramble: I'm 65. David Lewis: Rodney Bramble tells me he helped put these signs up. Rodney's a retired fisherman whose family has been in Bungwahl for generations. Tell me what this church means to you. Rodney Bramble: I was confirmed, I went to numerous weddings here, my father and mother were buried from here locally, I've been attached to it all my life, so it's a very emotive thing, you know, to me. David Lewis: Rodney wants to show me something. When you step inside the church you see an aisle that's leading to the front, and there are about seven rows of pews, of wooden pews. The windows are this beautiful coloured glass, there's blue, red, and yellow and there's some very ornate looking lights hanging from the roof. Rodney Bramble says his ancestors were among the very first parishioners here, way back in the 1880s. And his family's been helping the church ever since. He points to the ceiling. Rodney Bramble: We put the fans in, we donated the fans, the Bramble family. David Lewis: Oh right. So there's a lot of family history tied up in this place. Rodney Bramble: Oh yeah. David Lewis: As a kid, Rodney used to come to services here on Sundays. What do you remember of those services? Can you take me through what it was like? Rodney Bramble: I remember Reverend Onslow, which is the man I learned under. He was a man who went around to every household, sat down and talked to the people, had a cup of tea, was part of the community, and that's moved further away now with the religion, they just turn up, do the service, and then go. You don't really know who they are. David Lewis: Rodney eventually stopped going. The deaths of his son and grandson forced him to question his faith. People told him it was all part of God's plan. He couldn't accept that. But his love for St James itself never wavered. Until it was removed last year, he still listened out for the church bell. Rodney Bramble: You could hear it all the time on a Sunday, 11 o'clock. David Lewis: What did it sound like? Rodney Bramble: Ding, ding, ding! It travelled a long way. David Lewis: You reckon you'll forever remember that sound? Rodney Bramble: I will, yeah. David Lewis: Rodney doesn't want the church to be sold and that's despite knowing that almost half the money raised from the sale will go to a good cause: compensating victims of child sexual abuse within the Anglican Diocese of Newcastle. What would you say to victims who are waiting for their compensation payout who think, 'to hell with it, sell the church, I need some money because I've gone through such awful things'? Rodney Bramble: Yes, but where do you draw a line with selling churches, upsetting some people to satisfy others, where's the line? Who's right or wrong? I don't agree, you know, especially this church because it means so much to the community. David Lewis: Although Rodney's been fighting to save the church, he now seems resigned to losing it. Rodney Bramble: It's sad, and we've tried to do everything we can with writing letters and talking to people. But now they'll sell it off and it's just part of their business, when it's been here forever. David Lewis: Greg and Karen Thomas have joined the fight to save St James. Greg shows me where his parents etched their names into the pylons beneath the church. Greg Thomas: 'Ron and Joan Thomas', that's my family on that… David Lewis: So they've carved it out onto the concrete there. Greg Thomas: Yeah, they've just written it into the concrete around the footing. David Lewis: Greg's ancestors arrived here more than a century ago. He was born and raised in the town. Greg Thomas: Those, particularly the older families here such as ours and the Crolls, Brambles, and many other families are just horrified that suddenly the church needs money and sells a valuable community asset. David Lewis: His wife Karen has lived here ever since they met 40 years ago. Karen Thomas: Why don't they sell their cathedral in Newcastle? That would meet a lot of their problems, I'd say. David Lewis: So you think the Diocese should be looking at selling other assets? Karen Thomas: Yes, absolutely. Leave these small communities alone. We're suffering enough and now we're losing a major icon, a historical icon. David Lewis: Greg and Karen live opposite St James, and, together with Rodney Bramble, they put all the signs up on their land. Greg says they're trying to protect Bungwahl's history and identity. Greg Thomas: The people to come are sort of going to wonder why that church isn't still here. Why didn't we protect it? Why didn't we keep it with the contents, the artefacts that were inside the church, given to the church by the community? Future generations are going to shake their heads at what's happened here. David Lewis: The couple's opposition to the sale has caused some drama. Greg and Karen have clashed with the real estate agent selling the church, David Shaw. The Newcastle Diocese hired David, and he'll receive a small cut of the sale. And he's not about to let the couple next door stand in the way. David Shaw: If all you people are so concerned, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and buy the fucking thing? David Lewis: Greg and Karen Thomas captured two of their arguments with David on camera. The arguments happened on a day the church was open for inspection. Greg Thomas: This is our first encounter with David Shaw, the real estate agent. David Lewis: In the video, David is wearing sunglasses and a blue polo shirt tucked into baggy black trousers. He has scruffy blonde hair and a grey moustache and goatee. He's shouting at Greg Thomas who's sitting in his car while Karen stands outside filming. They're fighting over a no-trespassing sign that's gone missing from Greg and Karen's property. David claims a for-sale sign has been removed from the church too. David Shaw: So two can play at the same game, if you want to be a dickhead. David Lewis: In another video, Greg and Karen are on the boundary between their land and the church. David is pacing back and forth. Greg Thomas: When David saw us there he came up to the fence and started to become very aggressive and very hostile. David Lewis: David crawls through the barbed wire fence, using his hands to pry it open. He's standing in front of Greg and Karen, pointing and shouting. The fence isn't exactly on the boundary so, although he's crossed it, he's not actually trespassing. David Shaw: I'm on church property, so fuck off. What are you going to do about it? Piss off and leave me alone, you intimidators, bullying and harassing people. Greg Thomas: He repeatedly told us that we were intimidating him and he felt threatened and intimidated and would be taking it further. David Shaw: You're not allowed to intimidate people, whether you're on private property or not, you're intimidating me, I feel intimidated. Karen Thomas: Oh love, oh no. I feel harassed too. David Lewis: The argument lasts for at least nine minutes. When Greg and Karen have had enough and begin to walk away, David can be heard saying, 'Don't have an accident on the way home. David Lewis: Their feud shows just how ugly the sale of St James has become. I visit David Shaw to ask for his side of the story. His office is about 12 kilometres outside Bungwahl. It's a small white fibro building that sits just off the road. David accuses Greg and Karen Thomas of interfering with the church sale. David Shaw: Well, it is illegal to interfere with an auction process. Part of that auction process is open houses and they were interfering with the open houses, which is part of that auction process and subsequently they stopped. David Lewis: What do you mean by interfering? David Shaw: They were there at the church, refusing to give me their details and then actively engaging with people that were coming to the open house, they were intimidating people by filming and walking right up close to people and shoving cameras in their faces, like they also did to me. David Lewis: David also says he's figured out who removed his for-sale signs. David Shaw: And the adjoining landholders were the ones that took 'em. David Lewis: How do you know this? David Shaw: I have footage. David Lewis: Are you able to show that to me later? David Lewis: Why not? David Shaw: Because I'm not prepared to and it will be part of action taken. David Lewis: What sort of action are you taking? David Shaw: Undetermined at this stage but it'll be part of action that will be taken. David Lewis: Greg and Karen insist they've done nothing wrong. Both sides have called the police on each other, but no charges have been laid. Greg and Karen Thomas have spent a lot of time and energy arguing with David Shaw. But the auction's going ahead, whether they like it or not. Still, the couple seems determined to have the last laugh. A major selling point for the church is its stunning view over the Myall Lakes. Greg and Karen help maintain this view by clearing trees on their land, directly below St James. But they won't be doing that anymore. Greg Thomas: We've stopped clearing the seedlings. David Lewis: And why is that? Greg Thomas: We're not particularly interested in doing any more work for the Diocese. They've turned their back on the community efforts made in the past. They're simply looking at the dollars they can reap from the sale of this wonderful old building and I simply don't feel that I should be spending my weekends keeping the view clear. David Lewis: So that means that at a certain point in time this view will probably be obscured by gum trees? Greg Thomas: Most certainly. Within two or three years, there won't be a view. David Lewis: Is this an attempt to get back at the church for selling this building? Greg Thomas: No, we're not getting back at the church, we're regenerating this area. David Lewis: Greg's mate Rodney Bramble, who I spoke to earlier, finds it all pretty funny. Rodney Bramble: I'd hate him to be my neighbour. When he gets set on somebody, he's very determined. David Lewis: So what does it say about how controversial this sale is that people are kind of plotting and scheming against each other? Rodney Bramble: Well it's totally wrong. It was donated to them, they should give it back. David Lewis: I keep hearing from locals that St James belongs to the Bungwahl community, that it was given to the Anglican Diocese of Newcastle only for safe-keeping. So I decide to look into its past to see if that's true. The story of St James began in the 1860s. A man named Alexander Croll arrived in Australia from Scotland seeking his fortune. According to his obituary, he first tried digging for gold along the Snowy River. But after little success he moved to the New South Wales mid-north coast. It's here that he opened a timber mill on the edge of the Myall Lakes, and the town of Bungwahl gradually sprung up around it. Catherine Croll: In the process of setting up that business, he also employed a lot of people. David Lewis: That's Catherine Croll. She's related to Alexander. Catherine Croll: And as a result he decided that they needed to start a school so he built a schoolmaster's cottage and a school and gifted that land to the education system, if you like. David Lewis: Catherine lives in Newcastle. But she and her sisters share a holiday house on the edge of Myall Lakes. It's on land they inherited from Alexander Croll. She says Bungwahl simply wouldn't exist without him. Catherine Croll: He also built a community hall so people had somewhere to meet and he built a little church, St James church at Bungwahl. And all of this timber came from the local area and was milled in the mill and local men worked hard together to build those facilities for the community. David Lewis: Alexander was a widely known and respected figure. When he died in 1917 at the age of 82, his funeral procession was reportedly the largest ever seen in the district. Catherine Croll says his legacy has been kept alive in the family through stories and artworks. Catherine Croll: There are some little paintings in our house of the women with their parasols and their beautiful long dresses and all that sort of flounce that people had in those days, underneath the flame trees on the blocks around the lake at Bungwahl. And the stories were always about that entrepreneurial spirit and the fact that someone had made such an enormous contribution to the community. David Lewis: Alexander built the school, the hall, and the church on land he bought in 1873. I've had a look at a copy of the certificate of purchase. The original is well over a century old and the paper has turned a tea-stained brown. You can see it for yourself on our website. The certificate says Alexander paid 40 pounds sterling for 40 acres. He could've chosen a number of locations on that land for St James, but he wanted the church to have an impressive position, high on a hill, overlooking the town. Kevin Carter: I know it sounds corny, but you're closer to God, you know, on top of the hill, it's a sort of a reverence thing. David Lewis: That's Kevin Carter. He's a bit of a history buff. Kevin Carter: I just think it's a magnificent site where you actually stop and have a look and take it all in and maybe that, in their opinion, is the grandeur of God, you know, there it is, all laid out for you. David Lewis: Kevin is the president of a local historical society. He loves to chat and has very specific interests. He prefaces his sentences with things like: Kevin Carter: Now, if you know anything about early pioneer saw milling… David Lewis: Kevin says Alexander Croll knew he couldn't maintain the church forever. So in 1888 he gave it to the Anglican Diocese of Newcastle. Land title records show the Diocese now owns the building. So legally speaking, it has every right to sell. But Kevin says Alexander Croll would object to the Diocese letting it go. Kevin Carter: I mean, they should be and I use these words quite deliberately a custodian or a trustee, because it was meant to go forever and ever and the church would sit there and the community would benefit. And I would have thought some of the pioneers would be turning in their grave. David Lewis: It's impossible to say what Alexander Croll would make of all this. But Catherine Croll insists he wouldn't be happy. She was also upset when she discovered St James could be sold. Catherine Croll: It had never occurred to me that the church would be sold. And I doubt that anyone in the family ever thought the church would be sold because the church is the church, you know, it's sort of forever. David Lewis: Catherine wouldn't have even known about the sale if she hadn't been visiting Bungwahl in October 2016. Catherine Croll: I only discovered by accident. I was up in Bungwahl and I saw a notice for a public meeting that day. David Lewis: I've been given a recording of that meeting but in some spots it's hard to hear. Man: …this particular area, and that's why Mark asked me to come and chair the meeting today… David Lewis: By the time Catherine arrives at the church, the meeting is already underway. Man: Hi, come on in! David Lewis: She takes a seat toward the back of the church, behind about a dozen people. Man: I was just introducing myself to… Catherine Croll: I think the things that I found most disturbing were the reasons why the church was no longer useful and why the Diocese felt they needed to divest themselves of the property, and none of those things really had anything to do with community. David Lewis: Reverend Mark Harris is one of the speakers at the meeting. Mark Harris: So I've got a few PowerPoints to lead through that… David Lewis: He's the rector or priest for the Forster Tuncurry parish. The parish is one of 63 in the Newcastle Diocese. It consists of five churches, including St James in Bungwahl. Mark Harris says the building needs repairs worth tens of thousands of dollars. And he says the parish isn't prepared to spend that much. A woman in the crowd calls out, 'So it's all about the money. Mark Harris: …at this point in time, yes, because… David Lewis: Catherine Croll was in disbelief. She immediately thought of Alexander. Catherine Croll: I actually said in the meeting that he would turn in his grave, for two reasons. One, he couldn't imagine that the church would care about the monetary value. They've reduced this building to dollars, which I find obscene. And the other thing would be that his name is sort of being taken in vain, if you like, as a reason to sell the church because he gave it to the parish. He gave it to the community. David Lewis: When I speak to Reverend Mark Harris, he lists the problems with the building. It doesn't have a proper toilet, he says. It's lopsided and needs to be re-stumped. And he thinks it may even have to be moved back a few metres. Mark Harris: It encroaches on crown land at the front, so do you just level it or do you have to level it and move it to actually put it back on the property in the right spot? So they're questions which are likely to be expensive ones. David Lewis: Reverend Mark says the congregation at St James is too small to justify that kind of investment. Mark Harris: In the scheme of things, even levelling it wouldn't address the issue of the declining attendance, that's not just a recent decline, we're talking about over a long time. David Lewis: So if it's been this way for many years, why sell it now? Kevin Carter, the history buff you heard from earlier, has a theory. Kevin Carter: I guess I get a little bit sinister, that is this a cash flow thing that the church would like to get a few bob in because, particularly in the Newcastle Diocese, they're under a fair bit of pressure from potential litigations and things with the paedophilia court cases. David Lewis: Kevin was also at the public meeting. He says the residents of Bungwahl recently took over the maintenance of the community hall. Council didn't want it anymore, so the locals volunteered. He thinks the Diocese should allow them to do the same with the church. Kevin Carter: If the community didn't care a hoot, then I wouldn't care, but I think they do and I think they should be given the opportunity to…well, to basically put their actions where their mouth is and maybe hold onto it for a future generation. David Lewis: But Reverend Mark dismisses the idea. Mark Harris: It was never given to a secular community for a secular purpose. That's why it's consecrated to the glory of God and why we don't have other things occupying the premises during the rest of the time. So when people say give it back to the community, they're actually missing the point. It was given to the church community, it was never given to a secular community. David Lewis: The public meeting was part of a consultation process with the Bungwahl community. The parish ultimately decided to deconsecrate St James. That means it's no longer considered a sacred place of worship. A ceremony was held last November, the church bell was removed, and the doors locked shut. Catherine Croll says the concerns of residents and parishioners weren't taken seriously. Catherine Croll: I think that the crux of this matter comes down to putting the Diocese first and the community second. So they are shoring up their own future at the expense of the wealth and health of small rural communities. David Lewis: The Anglican Diocese of Newcastle is under financial pressure. Australians are becoming less religious, so congregations are getting smaller. That means there are fewer parishioners to contribute money to the Diocese. But that's not the full story. The Prime Minister Julia Gillard announced it late this afternoon. David Lewis: The Royal Commission was announced in 2012. Newcastle received the fifth highest number of complaints of any Anglican Diocese nationwide. It also ran the infamous St John's Theological College in Morpeth, which has since been closed. The college educated more paedophiles than any other Anglican training institution. David Lewis: The Royal Commission found the Diocese had a 'do-nothing' approach to allegations of abuse, and that its leadership was at times weak, ineffectual, and even complicit. The newly-elected Bishop, Peter Stuart, has promised that will never happen again. Peter Stuart: We've assigned more people, resources, and time to make sure that anyone who comes forward receives the care and assistance that they need. David Lewis: The Royal Commission is now over. But Bishop Peter says the compensation claims are still coming in. Peter Stuart: What's been happening through the Royal Commission and since is that more people have come forward to speak about what happened to them, so we don't see an early end to our processes of redress or support. David Lewis: The problem is the Diocese didn't account for this. Peter Stuart: The Diocesan budget in a sense is the conduit for our response to people coming forward, and redress payments had not been calculated into the budget. David Lewis: And that's caused some problems. Peter Stuart: The Diocesan budget has been under considerable pressure to make sure we meet our redress on a prompt and timely basis. David Lewis: It's hard to calculate how much money the Diocese will ultimately have to pay. And it's yet to find a quarter of that. David Lewis: I wanted to know if the Diocese had insurance for child sexual abuse. And it turns out that, yes, some policies do cover the actions of paedophile priests. But the Diocese didn't have this insurance until 1993. And even now that it has the right policy, it isn't fully covered. That's because the insurer won't approve claims if there's a chance the Diocese knew about the abuse. Peter Stuart: Many of the matters that we're dealing with were matters which were explored in the Royal Commission and rightly our insurers to this point have said, well, the conduct of the Dioceses at the time is such that insurance cover wouldn't apply. Bishop Peter wanted to use this money to compensate victims. But it turned out to be an accounting error. Peter Stuart: The trustees initially thought that they had more unallocated funds they could distribute to the Diocese. As we looked more closely into that it became apparent that the accounting error had been made and in fact that those funds weren't available for distribution. David Lewis: The Diocese has instead been relying on its cash reserves to fund redress. Peter Stuart: Those have now been fully exhausted and we're having to look at other sources, which are, for example, the inherited wealth through bequests or through historic sales of property. David Lewis: At a Synod or meeting last year, the Diocese decided to ask its 63 parishes to chip in. The parishes agreed to hand over some of the money they'd previously raised from selling property. David Lewis: In the future, the Diocese will be taking an even bigger slice of the proceeds to fund redress. For example, it'll take 40% of the money raised from the sale of St James in Bungwahl. It isn't the first church to go and it won't be the last either. I've been working a through a long list of property records to find out how many churches the Anglican Diocese of Newcastle has sold off. Bishop Peter Stuart has also volunteered some information. And as best as I can tell, 18 churches have been closed since 2010. And if you include St James in Bungwahl, 11 of them have been sold. I ask Bishop Peter whether they have enough money in the bank to pay victims into the future. Peter Stuart: We review our situation on a regular basis to make sure that we're in a position to respond to them when they come forward. At the moment, our current plans enable us to do that. David Lewis: And for how much longer do you think the current plans will enable you to do that? Bishop Peter shrugs his shoulders. We're talking years, though? Peter Stuart: I think you're trying to take me to a place of trying to do a form of calculation that we haven't invested in and don't think is either the right strategy in relation to responding to people around redress or the right strategy around management of our various assets. So I haven't done that calculation. David Lewis: Bishop Peter says in 2016 the Diocese realised it needed help. It hired the consultancy firm KPMG to review its finances and organisational structure. KPMG concluded the Diocese needed to run its affairs more like a business. It recommended establishing a new entity called the Newcastle Anglican Church Corporation. Peter Stuart: The KPMG review highlighted for us that we needed to strengthen some of our financial management skills in light of some of the work we were doing and our 21st century needs. David Lewis: Bishop Peter isn't the only leader in the Anglican Church who's struggling with this. The church is made up of 23 dioceses nationally. They're all governed by the same constitution but they're effectively separate entities. This means their response to child sexual abuse has been inconsistent. How much victims receive varies a lot from Diocese to Diocese. I raise this discrepancy with the most senior bishop in the country, Dr Philip Freier. He's the Archbishop of Melbourne and the Anglican Primate of Australia. Why are individual dioceses separately handling complaints of child sexual abuse and redress payments to victims? Philip Freier: Because they're the legally constituted entities that are seeking to respond to these very awful situations and take responsibility for the failings that have happened. David Lewis: The Dioceses have a lot of autonomy, and that can make it difficult to understand what's happening in the Anglican Church on a national level. But the Royal Commission is the only reason we know this. The Commission collected this information from each of the 23 Dioceses. And Dr Freier says the Anglican Church does not require the Dioceses to update these statistics. Do you have any more up-to-date figures on how much compensation has been paid by the Anglican Church nationally? Philip Freier: No, I don't. We don't have a national collection of that data. David Lewis: So that information that was put together by the Royal Commission was of no use to you? Philip Freier: I don't think I'd draw that conclusion. David Lewis: And there's no push from within the Anglican Church to require Dioceses to provide that information, nobody is pushing for that? Philip Freier: I think there's no head of power to do that. David Lewis: Right, so, structurally there's no way to facilitate that? Philip Freier: No, there's not a power of requiring the Dioceses to be reporting entities. I mean, there's a broad volunteering of matters of financial reporting and questions like that, but the Dioceses are not, as it were, reporting entities in that way, neither are the schools or the community service agencies to the general synod, which is the national body. David Lewis: The federal government is setting up a national redress scheme for victims of child sexual abuse. The scheme will establish clear guidelines on how to judge the severity of the abuse and the amount of money that should be paid. If all of the Anglican Church's 23 Dioceses sign up, that should bring them into line with each other. But in the meantime, they'll continue handling complaints themselves, making their own calculations about how to fund redress. Dr Freier says he expects more assets, including churches, to be sold. What about, say, the Diocese of Bathurst where churches have had to be sold in order to fund redress, that Diocese is obviously struggling. Wouldn't it make sense to have a national entity that can foot the bill for compensation rather than seeing churches closed down in communities where parishioners don't want that to happen? Philip Freier: I think you'll find that will be a reality across the Anglican Church of Australia and possibly other institutions that are wanting to now step forward and take responsibility for the redress aspects of abuse that have happened within their institutions. David Lewis: So you're not particularly sympathetic to the financial pressures of the Dioceses involved, you say this is an obligation they have to meet and if that means closing churches, then so be it? Philip Freier: I'm not meaning to express a lack of sympathy but I think it's a reality. It's a reality I've discussed quite openly here in the Diocese of Melbourne, that we need to be able to give people confidence that we can meet any obligations we have under redress, and most churches, most kind of institutions that are like us tend not to have strong cash balance sheets but they have assets in property and they tend to be, by and large, church buildings, and if, as they want to, they need to find cash to pay redress payments, their options are few. David Lewis: The Anglican Diocese of Newcastle is in exactly this predicament. Bishop Peter Stuart says the Diocese plans to sell more real estate. And it has churches with smaller congregations in its sights. Peter Stuart: One of the things the Diocese is looking at is whether we need to be more courageous around looking at our holdings of land and buildings and whether we need to contemplate further sales and further decisions around property in the future David Lewis: Back in Bungwahl, a small crowd of parishioners, locals, and a few visitors from out of town, is gathering at St James. If I didn't know any better, I'd think they were here for a church service. But actually it's auction day and this beloved building is about to go under the hammer. Opponents of the sale are here too. Rodney Bramble's watching on. Rodney Bramble: We just shake our head and can't understand it. It should have been given back to the community. We could've done something with it. David Lewis: The real estate agent, David Shaw, opens up the church. He unpacks his gavel and places a pile of brochures on a small table. Once everyone takes their seat, the bidding gets underway. None of the bids are high enough. So David says he'll now enter into negotiations with interested bidders. David Shaw: Yeah, look, we had two really active bidders. The people at the back, they're going to have first right of having a chat to us. I know there is other interest. David Lewis: So you'll now go to the bloke up the back and give him the chance to try and negotiate up the price? David Shaw: Yep, absolutely. And a couple of the other people that have been registered to bid today have just passed and said to me, look, they'll be back in contact. David Lewis: A few weeks later, David tells me a couple from Sydney has bought the church. If the parishioners of St James want a place to worship, they'll have to attend services here at St Albans, half an hour up the road, in Forster. Those who tried to save Bungwahl's beloved church are heartbroken. Greg Thomas: This is very short-sighted, to sell a community asset like this. Karen Thomas: The community history will disappear. Just the community itself is really disappointed with the sale. Kevin Carter: I just think, historically, ethically, the fact that Croll built it and handed it to 'em in good faith and now that good faith has been destroyed, it's a bit smelly. Catherine Croll: If the Diocese decides that their assets are only worth money, then who are they serving? What about the community that these assets were intended for? David Lewis: Bishop Peter Stuart says the Anglican Diocese of Newcastle has to make tough decisions. But he stands by them. Peter Stuart: Across the Diocese we understand the sadness that a closing of a church building will bring. In terms of the sense of responsibility, one of the features of our Diocesan life is that those who are currently church members across the Diocese on the whole and in a very large number recognise that it is our current responsibility to address the harm that was done in the past and it's something that we've accepted as the thing that we need to do. David Lewis: Background Briefing's sound producer is Leila Shunnar, sound engineering this week from Andrei Shabunov and David Lawford, production by Brendan King and our series producer Jess O'Callaghan, our executive producer is Alice Brennan. I'm David Lewis, thanks for listening.